Jeff Quirin: Paajarvi In. Perron Out. Stewart Files. Impacts & Analysis The Blues bring in Paajarvi, send out Perron, and prepare for Stewart's arbitration hearing. What does it all mean? Read on to see.

Amazing how nobody has commented yet! As an Oiler fan, it looks like a great deal for both sides. We need players like this beyond belief, maybe get rid of bottom pairing defensemen and get top 2-4 defensemen and we'll be a contender.

Glad to have you back Jeff.

So what is the thought here? Stewie and Halak for Miller? Both those guys have to go to fit Miller's deal in I believe

The deal itself looks to help both teams, but there are still rumblings about a deal with BUF for Miller. Is MPS the piece BUF was looking for to deal Miller to the Blues or was Perron the piece BUF was looking for to deal Miller to the Oilers? I just can't see what the Blues would deal to BUF with Halak to round out a deal for Miller. Army always plays these things so close to the vest so we will just have to wait and see. If he's here to stay, I hope MPS gets (re)energized playing with fellow Swede Berglund and explosive Russian Tarasenko. Should be fun to watch them build chemistry.

Glad to have you back Jeff.

So what is the thought here? Stewie and Halak for Miller? Both those guys have to go to fit Miller's deal in I believe
- BerglundsGrundle

That's too much.

Wow, really liked Perron, killed the hawks. That said, I also think he is better than MP..... so I wouldn't call it a push until we know what MP has signed for and how you will use the extra cap space.

Great deal for the blues. MP needed a change of scenery and the likely 29th-34th overall pick next year is great to keep the prospects stocked. Perron will take some bad penalties to help that pick stay early

Whatever the deal ends up being, if there is a deal between the Blues and Sabres that involves Miller, rest assured that Buffal has plenty of cap room to take back money in the deal along with being able to pay part of Miller's contract this year as well.

Doing both of those things would not only give you cap space, but it would also allow you to make moves at the deadline without being right up against the cap.

Glad to have you back Jeff.

So what is the thought here? Stewie and Halak for Miller? Both those guys have to go to fit Miller's deal in I believe
- BerglundsGrundle

Stewart and Elliott unless you need to move Halak for the money. I would expect more components or a straight up Oshie for Miller as there were rumblings he was available after word leaked about an attitude problem, but I would guess that's why the Blues said no the first time. I think Miller would be a great fit for the Blues. We need someone like a Stewart or an Oshie to build around

As you suggested, I think the Miller trade will resemble the JBo trade... Blues will set their price at what they are willing to give, and stand pat until Buffalo is ready to accept it.

It's advantageous to the Blues to wait, quite frankly. Halak and Elliott's value are low right now. Start the season, give them a chance to prove they are back to the form they had the last time they had a normal off-season and training camp. We might not need to make a move.

If all Stewart would fetch in a trade would by Ryan Miller, it's far and away better for Blues to hold on to him. He is still quite young, plenty of time to put it all together and be the forward he has shown flashes of being. Sure, Blues have depth on RW... but Rattie can play on the left, and I bet Hitch would just LOVE to try out Jaskin at center, I bet we hear about that happening at training camp.

Any trade for Miller would involve Halak. I'd imagine the Blues would be offering Halak plus their own 2nd round pick. If Buffalo wants a roster player, they would need to be offering more than Miller, because opening up roster holes isn't how Amrstrong does things. EJ trade, we filled a hole (with Stewart) while not opening up a hole with Shatty. JBo trade we filled a hole, while not opening up a hole by using prospects/picks. Perron trade, didn't open up a hole by getting MPS.

Great deal for the blues. MP needed a change of scenery and the likely 29th-34th overall pick next year is great to keep the prospects stocked. Perron will take some bad penalties to help that pick stay early
- 10in_soft

The point of getting Perron is to finally make a push for the playoffs.. To get better now. With that being said, the 2nd will be somewhere around 45th

Great deal for the blues. MP needed a change of scenery and the likely 29th-34th overall pick next year is great to keep the prospects stocked. Perron will take some bad penalties to help that pick stay early
- 10in_soft

fyi there are 30 teams in the league. second round starts at 31

[quote=Antilles]As you suggested, I think the Miller trade will resemble the JBo trade... Blues will set their price at what they are willing to give, and stand pat until Buffalo is ready to accept it.
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Have you heard of Darcy Regier?

As you suggested, I think the Miller trade will resemble the JBo trade... Blues will set their price at what they are willing to give, and stand pat until Buffalo is ready to accept it.

It's advantageous to the Blues to wait, quite frankly. Halak and Elliott's value are low right now. Start the season, give them a chance to prove they are back to the form they had the last time they had a normal off-season and training camp. We might not need to make a move.

If all Stewart would fetch in a trade would by Ryan Miller, it's far and away better for Blues to hold on to him. He is still quite young, plenty of time to put it all together and be the forward he has shown flashes of being. Sure, Blues have depth on RW... but Rattie can play on the left, and I bet Hitch would just LOVE to try out Jaskin at center, I bet we hear about that happening at training camp.

Any trade for Miller would involve Halak. I'd imagine the Blues would be offering Halak plus their own 2nd round pick. If Buffalo wants a roster player, they would need to be offering more than Miller, because opening up roster holes isn't how Amrstrong does things. EJ trade, we filled a hole (with Stewart) while not opening up a hole with Shatty. JBo trade we filled a hole, while not opening up a hole by using prospects/picks. Perron trade, didn't open up a hole by getting MPS.
- Antilles

I don't think Buffalo would want a roster player. More likely some kind of prospect, but wouldn't they have to take back an additional roster player besides Halak for cap purposes (unless Buffalo is going to pay a portion of his salary)?

Great deal for the blues. MP needed a change of scenery and the likely 29th-34th overall pick next year is great to keep the prospects stocked. Perron will take some bad penalties to help that pick stay early
- 10in_soft

That's undervaluing the oilers a bit. You think they'll finish bottom 4? If so I'd like to hear where you think TO finishes.

MPS has great character and struggled due to a lack of confidence. He started to find his own this year, I see him developing into a more effective player than Perron. I say EDM wins this short term

That's undervaluing the oilers a bit. You think they'll finish bottom 4? If so I'd like to hear where you think TO finishes.
- TheNugeIsHuge

Are you comparing a non-playoff team to a playoff team?

Are you comparing a non-playoff team to a playoff team?
- Dwight K. Schrute

A playoff team in a shortened season, going into a tougher division versus a team on the cusp of being a contender that has made some good improvements this year. That's what he was comparing

As you suggested, I think the Miller trade will resemble the JBo trade... Blues will set their price at what they are willing to give, and stand pat until Buffalo is ready to accept it.

It's advantageous to the Blues to wait, quite frankly. Halak and Elliott's value are low right now. Start the season, give them a chance to prove they are back to the form they had the last time they had a normal off-season and training camp. We might not need to make a move.

If all Stewart would fetch in a trade would by Ryan Miller, it's far and away better for Blues to hold on to him. He is still quite young, plenty of time to put it all together and be the forward he has shown flashes of being. Sure, Blues have depth on RW... but Rattie can play on the left, and I bet Hitch would just LOVE to try out Jaskin at center, I bet we hear about that happening at training camp.

Any trade for Miller would involve Halak. I'd imagine the Blues would be offering Halak plus their own 2nd round pick. If Buffalo wants a roster player, they would need to be offering more than Miller, because opening up roster holes isn't how Amrstrong does things. EJ trade, we filled a hole (with Stewart) while not opening up a hole with Shatty. JBo trade we filled a hole, while not opening up a hole by using prospects/picks. Perron trade, didn't open up a hole by getting MPS.
- Antilles

Perhaps we throw in Stafford too and we eat salary. I disagree on just prospects. Darcy has said he wants Vanek and Miller trades to be like Carter and Richards trades before. Millers value maybe considered low but not low enough not to get a top six forward in exchange even if there is some picks exchanged. Stewart's arbitration may help decide things

Are you comparing a non-playoff team to a playoff team?
- Dwight K. Schrute

TO will finish next to BUF next year

A playoff team in a shortened season, going into a tougher division versus a team on the cusp of being a contender that has made some good improvements this year. That's what he was comparing
- massa_3

So, a playoff team vs a non playoff team. You could have just agreed because that is the reality of these 2 teams.

What's the cutoff for Blues fans regarding Stewarts salary?

$4.5M or less?

So, a playoff team vs a non playoff team. You could have just agreed because that is the reality of these 2 teams.
- Dwight K. Schrute

That was the reality of last season, but last season means jack sh1t in regards to next season which is what matters now that last season is over. The reality for next season is Toronto is seriously in tough to make the playoffs, Edmonton has just as much of a chance as TO of making the playoffs next year. If you look at the divisions/conferences and new playoff format it's pretty plain to see to the educated person

That was the reality of last season, but last season means jack sh1t in regards to next season which is what matters now that last season is over. The reality for next season is Toronto is seriously in tough to make the playoffs, Edmonton has just as much of a chance as TO of making the playoffs next year. If you look at the divisions/conferences and new playoff format it's pretty plain to see to the educated person
- massa_3

oh I get it. Under your logic, the Hawks are not Stanley Cup champions because that was last season. It's ok to be excited about your team with all the young talent you have, but to just throw out the fact that TO made the playoffs last season is a little ridiculous. You know as well as anyone, if Edmonton made the playoffs you would still call them a playoff team.

Not saying the Oilers will make the playoff's but I think we will make a better sustained push than last year, and this trade helps the cause. Hopefully MPS fully develops in St.Louis. The guy is an amazing athelete, tremendous skater and ,when he using his size and speed and goes to net, a guy that score a few goals as well. Sad to see him go, but thrilled to have Perron.